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JD Hines's avatar

Hi Lux,

I found your comment to Maura genuinely fascinating! I agree; her insights were impressive. I'm new to the idea that the indigenous inhabitants of North America were intricately organized as nations, and it's pretty eye-opening. Is this one of the topics you write about and discuss on your Substack?

Best,

Jeff

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Maura Torkildson's avatar

Hmmm. There is no way to know how humans who ran into other human tribes behaved in the deep past. Maybe some fought, maybe some bred together instead. We do know that humans bred with Neanderthals, so there may have been more cooperation. After all Neanderthals were a whole other species, not just another tribe. Nature has far more cooperation than competition, in fact life on land started when lichen broke down rocks into soil. Lichen is two cooperating species.

Yes, we do have capacity for both compassion/cooperation or for lack there of. However, humans are built to belong, to work together.

Humans are also story telling creatures. The stories we tell ourselves lead to actions. They are powerful, especially when we believe them.

Why do we put so much focus on sin?

The Catholic church terrorized Europe for 2000 years with its doctrine of sin and authoritarian ways. It traumatized a whole population across the European continent and beyond. Protestants didn’t do better.

Traumatized brains don’t work well and tend to be hyper vigilant and trauma creates stronger neural pathways in the fear system. We don’t know how we could be if we weren’t so traumatized. The Church + colonialism spread this trauma around the world. We live in a great big trauma recycling system. That is how we arrived at this juncture.

There are tribal humans in the world that do not behave like us. It appears many Native American civilizations did not also. I don’t think it is just evolution. It is evolution plus trauma. Trauma that is not being healed. So many of us are in fight or flight and/or collapse states. Trump is definitely a traumatized person and so are his followers.

Personally I think Walter is on to something here! It is about time that the terror of Christianity is called out for what it created here. Our “Christian” nation was founded on a holocaust of Native people and the enslavement of Africans. Sure, some Christians also fought against these evils, but for the most part, Christians think they are chosen and superior, especially the more evangelical and the more devout dominionist Catholics. They deny their trauma and project all their self hatred shit onto to others and justify demonizing them because that is what their belief encourages them to do. It encourages them to hate being human, to hate themselves for not being perfect. It creates cognitive dissonance. They carry this sickness into every relationship. Evolution is not responsible for the mess, even if it plays a specific role in survival. However, we are not surviving, we are dying.

Imagine what the world would be like if we followed a culture more like some of the tribes we did our damndest to destroy.

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